The real reason why Assange is not questioned in London: ”A matter of prestige”

Swedish Foreign Ministry: ”You do not dictate the terms if you are a suspect. Get it?”

Publicerat den 21 augusti 2012 kl 18:12

STOCKHOLM (FRIA TIDER). Last Friday, a Swedish professor of international law stated that the reason why the prosecutor will not question Julian Assange in London is that it has become ”a matter of prestige” not to do so. The following day, the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs commented that Assange must come to Sweden because it is not up to him to ”dictate the terms”. It seems increasingly clear that the prosecutor’s refusal to accept Assange’s offer to be interviewed in London has much to do with prestige and little with law.

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Marianne Ny, the Swedish prosecutor in the Assange case.

Marianne Ny, the Swedish prosecutor in the Assange case. ()

One of the most vexing questions in the Assange case is why the Swedish prosecutor insists on having him extradited to Sweden, instead of simply questioning him in London. A long series of contradictory explanations has been provided by the Swedish Prosecution Authority throughout the proceedings.

In the early stages of the extradition process, the prosecutor in charge of the case, Marianne Ny, frequently claimed that British as well as Swedish law prevented her from interrogating Assange anywhere but in Sweden. Some examples: On 20 November 2010, Ms. Ny was quoted as saying that Swedish law prevented her from questioning Assange by video link or at an embassy in London. On 3 December the same year Ms. Ny told TIME Magazine that she could not legally interview Assange by telephone or video link. She made similar comments two days later, claiming that it was impossible to question Assange in London.

Two months later, Ms. Ny suddenly changed her story. In a witness statement submitted in the extradition proceedings in London, dated 4 February 2011, she admitted that it was possible for her to interview Assange in London within the framework of a system for legal co-operation called Mutual Legal Assistance. However, Ms. Ny claimed, that would not be ”an appropriate course” to take, because she considered it necessary to interrogate Assange ”in person”.

The legal basis for Ms. Ny’s comments appears dubious, to say the least. The rules setting out the procedures for Mutual Legal Assistance make clear that a foreign prosecutor can question a suspect in the UK by telephone, videolink, or through British police (see Mutual Legal Assistance Guidelines for the United Kingdom, 8th edition, pp. 15, 20 and 29). If the latter option is used, it is possible for officers from the foreign state to be present during the interview. In fact, Ms. Ny had a wide range of options for interrogating Assange in the UK: by telephone, video link or by interviewing him in person, together with British police.

As for Swedish law, there are no provisions preventing prosecutors from interrogating suspects abroad. Doing so is, in fact, a routine matter. An example: In late 2010, at roughly the same time that Ms. Ny decided to issue a European Arrest Warrant for Assange, Swedish police officers went to Serbia to interview a well-known gangster suspected of involvement in an armed robbery. The interview was conducted in co-operation with Serbian police. Thus, at the same time that Ms. Ny claimed it was an impossibility to interview the founder of Wikileaks in London, her colleagues were busy interrogating an infamous gangster in Serbia.

In a radio interview last Friday, a Swedish professor emeritus of international law, Ove Bring, confirmed that there are no legal obstacles whatsoever preventing Ms. Ny from questioning Assange in London. When asked why the prosecutor would not do so, Professor Bring responded that ”it’s a matter of prestige not only for prosecutors, but for the Swedish legal system”. Professor Bring also stated that the charges against Assange would probably have to be dropped following an interview, since ”the evidence is not enough to charge him with a crime”.

Last Saturday, Fria Tider sent a message to the Ministry’s official Twitter channel, asking if Professor Bring was right in saying that the reason why the prosecutor would not interrogate Assange in London was ”prestige”.  After a short exchange of messages, the Ministry provided the following response:

”You do not dictate the terms if you are a suspect. Get it?”

In an opinion piece published last Sunday in Sweden’s largest daily Dagens Nyheter, two Swedish journalists claimed that Marianne Ny had privately stated that she would not change her position on Assange even if she were wrong.

Today, two years after Assange was first questioned by Swedish police in Stockholm, it seems increasingly clear that the reason why he has not been interviewed again has very much to do with prestige and little to do with law.

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  • Rune Rasmussen

    Sweden will not send the prosecutor to London because of ”prestige”. In addition, Sweden will not guarantee Assange is not extradited to the US (or some third country). And yet, Assange would go to Sweden if given such a guarantee. How much prestige does Sweden have if it is clearly the puppet of the US?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/jennboucher Jen Boucher

    prestige? get it? – i dont think they `Get how in trying to apparently save this irrelevent emotion from harm.. they have in turn actually enabled its destrution by showing the rest of the world that they are a complete pack of morons who cant get past their own emotions long enough to get the job done… hahaha… idiots

  • Ville Hautamäki

    It is kind of amazing that Marianne Ny is not fired already.

  • http://twitter.com/ceciliawyu Cecilia W Yu

    Is it possible that the gap between the Commonlaw Adversarial system and Sweden’s Inquisitorial system has led to some procedural navigation that essentially has been interpreted through Mass Media into speculative ”trail by media”….and in the course of that has embarassed many of those involved, including Swedish Crown prosecution, Australian government and a few other jurisdictions to boot? Many of us with some training in differences in the legal system has been involved in some heated debate.Afterall the concept of Equity does not exist in the Inquisitorial system but is the very thing that enables ”substantive justice” in commonlaw? Even amongst Australians, our views are divided on this issue. http://www.ceciliawyu.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/julian-assange/

  • http://twitter.com/scarboni888 Sam

    Hey Sweden government mouthpiece:  he’s not a criminal yet – in fact is not even charged – so he deserves to be treated with respect and dignity for his very legitimate humanitarian concerns.  Get it?

  • http://profiles.google.com/lassesolhem Lars Viklund

    Om nu USA vill ha Assange utlämnad – varför begär de honom inte utlämnad från Storbrittanien? Varför måste det ske via omvägen Sverige?
     

  • Anonym

    This is a bucket of blabber. This is a game to get Assange to the US. It is really vile of this to be set up as a rape case. 

    Sweden should be ashamed of their role in this. Obama is a War Criminal and his Administration is full of them as well. 

    And this Lawyer is enabling War criminals to snuf out the truth. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHX34VUTAYR56AGXPULFNBFSAY Antonio Fortis

    The story of the rape is clearly FAKE is an excuse to take him to Swden and then to the USA
    Thei make the same story last year in New York with a french banch director who was theaspirant new french President.
    End of the story tha news was fake and is political caree was over.
    Tankx to the carabbien maid$$$$$ ;good money for the false accuse.

  • http://twitter.com/MattSchofield Dr Matt Schofield

    Wish the Swedish Foreign Ministry come over on their own account and offend the whole of Latin America by storming the Ecuadorian embassy in person. Clearly dignity matters to them ;-)

  • Anonym

    I wonder how seriously the western world would take these ‘allegations’ if the two women, instead of being blue-eyed blonde Swedes, were black?

    • Anonym

      Very. If it suited other political ends like taking down Wikileaks. 

    • Anonym

      Far from all in Sweden are blue eyed and blonde. You may have more information than I in this case concerning the ”race” of the women, but I would not assume that the women are blonde and blue eyed based on their nationality.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jörgen-Larsson/570381306 Jörgen Larsson

        They arnt, but they are ”white”, and i think that was the point he tried to make.

      • Anonym

        It’s all available, in colour, on the internet. I assure you they fit my description perfectly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.stenberg Doggilou Stenberg

    Cut off one head… And two new ones takes it’s place. The times are a changin’… And it’s getting harder by the minute to control their dirty little secrets.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zeluiz.f3 José Luiz Sarmento Ferreira

    Assange is guilty of being the wrong gender. Marianne Ny wants to punish him by sending him to the USA to be tortured.

  • Anonym

     What prestige does Sweden find in arranging Assange’s extradition to the US? After all, he is not charged with anything in Sweden.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IPOSJWIKX5OXY3M2XGNIBOR4R4 JenniferS

    Considering that their refusal has caused an international incident between the UK and Ecuador, maybe they ought to reconsider their strategy.

  • Anonym

    Worship democracy or serve democracy the other comes with lifetime employment as a useless official.

  • Anonym

    Ooops, Expo/N24 på krigsstigen! ”Wikileaks länkar till högerextremist sida”.

    http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/723159-wikileaks-lankar-till-hogerextrem-nyhetssida

    • Anonym

      Varför förvånas jag inte över att vänsterextremisterna på Expo tjuter i högan sky över att Fria Tider uppmärksammas utomlands, och dessutom passar på att kalla Julian Assange för antisemit? Det blir mer och mer tydligt vad Expo är för slags organisation.

      • Anonym

        Ja, mer och mer tydligt. Känns nästan lite desperat det här från deras sida. Låt dem hållas liksom, jag har svårt att se att så många kommer att ta dem på allvar när de använder sådana här överord hela tiden…

        • Anonym

           Dessutom finns de långt ner på rankinglistorna så det är inte många som läser deras skräp.

    • Anonym

      Men vad bra att nyheter24.se gör reklam för Fria Tider. Det tackar vi för!

  • Anonym

    If you, as an example, is suspected as being a bank robber in Sweden, you can always try to be interrogated in the UK. It not going to happen. And that´s how does it work in all countries. Why make an exception for Assange?

    • Anonym

      If you are suspected of robbery in Sweden, police will gladly go to Serbia to question you. Did you read the article?

  • http://twitter.com/OwnXeD OwnXeD

    Beautifully put.

  • Exequiel Klopman

    All that is obvious but nevertheless much worth to mention

  • Exequiel Klopman

    Sweden had a considerable national prestige until they took part in this farce. Now, they play an auxiliary part in an obscure game dictated by the US with the UK as sidekick, so the idea of swedish prestige at this point seems laughable, they have clearly taken sides with power and corruption and against freedom of speech, independent justice, transparent government and the right of citizens to know. Kiss your prestige goodbye swedich govt.

    • Anonym

       I’m far from being an expert in Swedish matters, but as far as I know their legal system is quite bizarre and arbitrary,  and the government is way too powerful to be accountable.

  • Anonym

    Det var anonyma källor som släppte dessa så kallade wikileaks dokument. Varför sån här mediaintresse av nån snubbe som lagt en del av dokumenten i sin webbsida? Min teori är att dem försöker göra nästa Jesus Kristus av den här långhåriga mannen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/renan.e.avila Renan Ennes Avila

    This justification is such a joke. Anyone with half-brain can work this out. To do these justifications, they often bring the voice of ‘experts’ to explain their points. There is a great difference between an expert, someone who applies the formulas and answers the questions within that frame or simply ‘ do as they are told’, and an intellectual; who not only tries to answer the question but also challenges the question itself. I’m with the intellectuals of our time; Chomsky, Zizek, Tariq Ali and so on.. They all worked out what it is clear to see: there is a massive corruption in the political representatives of these countries and ,even worse and scary; a very sophisticated manipulation of information and opinions by the big media groups. We can see that we are showing that we are not as dumb they think we are, and slowly the voices are growing louder and louder… They are desperate.

    • Anonym

      I am glad that these intellectuals are siding with Assange, but I have to disagree with your perception of the intellectuals being some kind of benevolent prophets: in the last 100 years, intellectuals have supported really wicked things, ranging from Communism to social engineering, and have produced quite a few disasters.

      • http://www.facebook.com/renan.e.avila Renan Ennes Avila

        I agree with you, and I seemed to show that naivety through my words, and I agree with the whole catastrophic outcomes from the socialist experiences in the last century. However I believe in the wholeness of its sense; the attempt to bring some sort of more cohesive system needs to exist (or the idea will always exist naturally anyway)and be supported as I see throughout our history, the voice of intellectuals still weighted more to our advances than the opposite as you made it sound like.(say the idea of democracy from Greece (i know it wasn’t the democracy we think of, however the idea helped us to walk on) and enlightenment philosophers and so on). They might bring sometimes, radical ideas that will confront many of our ways to see things (which it is imposed by reality itself: environmental issue, social disruptions etc.. , that, in my view we are failing to address in the same level of urgency) and they might sound violent.About violence,  I would say that Gandhi was also violent in the way that his violence proposed a whole change in the way how things were going on. What are these violence in comparison to violences that are imposed on us on daily basis? Violence that is normalised’, to make things go on without the ‘inconvenient’ of having to really change it? In this sense, Hitler (and Stalin) would be much less violent than Gandhi, because he wanted to impose power to keep things going like they had always been (to maintain their dysfunctional systems). 

  • Juan Crespo

    Sweden has lost prestige and law long time ago. 

    Suecia perdió el prestigio y un sistema judicial justo hace tiempo

  • http://www.facebook.com/johann.gunnarsson.9 Jóhann Gunnarsson

    Swedish ”dobbelt moral” is a known local fact.Lisbet Palme was an eye witness of her husband’s Olof assasination but swedish procecution decided she was not a reliable witness because she was married to the victim. Therefore Christer Pettersson walked. Swedish authorities didn’t want to solve the case.JFK was assasinated. Oliver Stone shows evidence in his film ”JFK” that Warren committy -  CIA – FBI and authorities were involed.Three nations with dysfunctional law systems are now going to decide on Assange’s fate.Not trustworthy.Swedish government cooperates now with US gov as they did in WW II with Nazi.UK legal system can be bought if the price is right. Libyan Gaddafi showed the world the power of money and that UK legal system is for sale when he freed the Pan Am flight 103 with 270 victims Lockerbie bomber

    • http://www.friatider.se Fria Tider Redaktion

      Double post. Which one do you want us to delete?

  • http://www.facebook.com/johann.gunnarsson.9 Jóhann Gunnarsson

    Swedish ”dobbelt moral” is a known local fact.

    Lisbet Palme was an eye witness of her husband’s Olof assasination but swedish procecution decided she was not a reliable witness because she was married to the victim. Therefore Christer Pettersson walked. Swedish authorities didn’t want to solve the case.

    JFK was assasinated. Oliver Stone shows evidence in his film ”JFK” that Warren committy -  CIA – FBI and authorities were involed.

    Two nations with dysfunctional law systems are now going to decide on Assange’s fate.

    Not trustworthy.

    Swedish government cooperates now with US gov as they did in WW II with Nazi.

    UK legal system can be bought if the price is right. Libyan Gaddafi showed the world the power of money and that UK legal system is for sale when he freed the Pan Am flight 103 Lockerbie bomber.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7AJ3XWNPQUC5ELSEVU7OTXRZK4 Rick

    LOl prestige wouldn`t the public like to know the lies and the truth of it all . Assange is not charged the fact Sweden wants to talk to him doesn`t mean that Assange has to answer any of their  question’s.  He dosen`t even have to appear there the fact Sweden has already entered into talks to have him sent to Amerika the land of indefinite detention or possible execution ?? Hmm I`d be less then inclined to even consider it

    The Girls in question boasted about bedding this man on Twitter hardly some one who claims rape would do . oh he didn`t use a condom irrelevant because they boasted about the fact after the deed was done apparently no means ok for these 2 ladies and that term is being used loosely here ./ Why have theses 2 ladies not given any interviews and seem to have had their story accepted ? its all Bullsh~t to allow the Amerikan administration to save face for being as smart as a bag of hammers

  • Anonym

    This is a bloody outrage! A prosecutor is supposed to consider only legal issues and facts. Marianne Ny seems like a corrupt politician to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1350795751 Andrew Huddleston

    Arrogance, illustrated.

  • Anonym

    Här är ert moderna Jesus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXbCwq4ewBU

  • http://www.facebook.com/artistic.license Brian Charles Keith

    What about the assumption of innocence UNTIL proven guilty?  If he has not been charged then his right to the assumption of innocence should allow him to dictate any terms he wishes.

    • http://erik.landvall.se/ Erik Landvall

      Idk what country you are from, but thats a US saying. In Sweden you are aloud to isolate a person while investigation is ongoing. This is commented on by the tortyr commision.
      I know of ppl that has been isolated for two years with out trial, only something we call ”häktningsförhandlingar” has been carried out during this time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1604825585 Estela Lis

    Mi apoyo incondicional a Julian Assange no tengo la menor duda de que es victima de persecución politica un beso desde Argentina

    • Anonym

       You do not know the political power of the swedish feminists. Marianne Ny is not a US-agent, she´s just a useful  idiot.
      Saludos de Suecia para Argentina!

  • Anonym

    Sweden is looking very foolish to the outside world, and losing prestige fast.  There reputation is in free fall. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.j.hammer.3 Tom Jarle Hammer

      And who exactly are they looking foolish for? Commoners, right? Well, it’s sad to say but that doesn’t matter for sh*t.
      The only things they fear (and should fear) are sanctions from the US, economical or otherwise. It’s not hard to see that they’ve got their balls in a pinch here. 
      Every other country in the 1st world would do the same, because the king of the castle lives in a white house.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ccmccoy Chris McCoy

    The real reason is to extradite him to the US. Not prestige at all. The Swedish government is working with the US. The sexual assault charges are just an excuse to force him on to Swedish soil. He will be questioned and then charges will be dropped. Then, he will be held and extradited to the US where he will face life in prison because the US wants to punish him.

    The US has no credibility, and this article shows the Swedish have no credibility in this matter either. Prestige be damned, if justice were the goal he would already be questioned and this would be over. The ONLY logical reason to insist he come back to Sweden is to send him to the US.

    • Peo Lekare

      how the hell would they be able to hold Assange after charges are dropped? Pull your head out of your ass.

      • http://www.facebook.com/m.a.canavan Mick ✯ Canavan

         since when is the law an obstacle to the US? Rendition? Guantanamo bay?

      • Anonym

         If the US deliver a request to have him extradited as soon as he steps on Swedish soil they can hold him in custody until the proceedings are over in a few years.

      • Anonym

         I suggest you do the same.. If they had any solid evidence he would be charged in absentia unless by questioning him they’re anticipating a confession..

    • Anonym

       Absolutely no doubt.  If the charges could be substantiated the evidence would lead to a charge being laid.  As a Canadian I do applaud Julian Assange but also understand that your country does need to protect their national security but not their duplicity.  It’s a slippery slope.

    • http://openid.anonymity.com/8EZa9yVy keitai

      People who believe in this theory, why does he need to be ”forced to swedish soil” ? UK is much more a bed fellow with US than Sweden. It is easier to extradite directly from UK instead of inventing a weird sidetrack involving a rape charge that would be then dropped.

      • http://www.facebook.com/zeluiz.f3 José Luiz Sarmento Ferreira

        Assange needs to be forced to Swedish soil because it would benefit the USA from a PR point of view. The Americans relied on Sweden’s reputation for Human Rights being better than the UK’s. Then Mariane Ny came along and teared Sweden’s reputation to tatters.

        Now Sweden and the USA are in the same trap, a trap of their own making. If Assange is extradited to the USA without being tried in Sweden, the world’s worst suspicions will be confirmed. If he’s tried and convicted in Sweden after all that’s been said and done, this conviction will confirm the world’s worst suspicions about this country’s gender politics.

        Forget about prestige. Nobody stands to gain from this mess xxcept Marianne Ny and her extremist political friends. But for them to succeed Assange MUST be convicted whether he is guilty or not.

      • Brennan Young

        Because he has not committed any offences in UK.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Tecnicomanuntecao Alex Sandro

    Hooo ela acha que vamos deixar de se preocupar com um dos nossos so por que ele mudo de pais ?

    Estamos de olho e vamos continuar Assanger estamos com voce e com a verdade 

  • Anonym

    Marianne Ny is right even when she is wrong.

    • Exequiel Klopman

      far right

  • Anonym

    Sverige och svensk statsfeminism börjar bli till internationellt åtlöje! Man tar sig mer och mer för pannan inför bananrebubliken för varje dag.

  • Anonym

    Ännu er pinsamt för Sverige när dårskapen börjar spridas på engelska….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003446126416 Ulian Aliev

       ja men det kan behövas för att skaka om regimen gammelmedia lite…  så de till sist rasar ihop så vi slipper skämmas mera

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